{"id":5313,"date":"2024-02-03T02:50:43","date_gmt":"2024-02-03T02:50:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rcpress.com\/wp\/?p=5313"},"modified":"2026-02-21T03:01:14","modified_gmt":"2026-02-21T03:01:14","slug":"rcpress-vid-tamiya-dual-hunter-3s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rcpress.com\/wp\/?p=5313","title":{"rendered":"The Voltage Question: Is It OK to Run 3S Lipo on a Stock Brushed Motor?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">If you hang around the RC hobby long enough, you\u2019ll eventually hear the old wives\u2019 tale:\u00a0<em>\u201cIf you run 3S on a stock motor, you\u2019re going to let the magic smoke out.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">For years, we\u2019ve been told that 2S Lipos (7.4V) are the safe zone, and 3S (11.1V) is the wild west reserved for brushless systems.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">But here\u2019s the truth that weekend bashers have known for years:\u00a0<strong>Dropping a 3S LiPo into a car with a stock 540 silver can motor isn&#8217;t just possible\u2014it\u2019s one of the best budget upgrades you can do.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">First, let\u2019s give credit where it\u2019s due. The Mabuchi RS-540 (or the clone found in every entry-level car) is the AK-47 of the motor world. It\u2019s a brushed, non-sensored hunk of metal and magnets designed to be mass-produced and abused.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">These motors were originally designed for 6V battery packs, but the hobby evolved. We ran them on 7.2V NiMHs for years without issue. The truth is, the &#8220;540&#8221; is a voltage sponge. Because it doesn&#8217;t have complex circuit boards or delicate sensors, it handles over-volting surprisingly well. Running 11.1V doesn&#8217;t instantly vaporize it; it just feeds it a lot more coffee.<\/p>\n<h3>The Physics of Speed<\/h3>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">When you increase voltage, you increase the RPM of the motor. A standard silver can motor spins at roughly 15,000 to 20,000 RPM on 7.2V. When you hit it with 11.1V, you are pushing that number toward the\u00a0<strong>30,000 RPM range<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Suddenly, your old Saturday crawler or basher turns into a rocket. The torque increases, the throttle response sharpens, and you get that &#8220;new car&#8221; feeling without spending $100 on a brushless system.<\/p>\n<h3>The Real Risks (Be Honest With Yourself)<\/h3>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">So if it\u2019s so great, why doesn\u2019t everyone do it? Why do stock speed controllers come with warnings? Because there is a trade-off. If you aren&#8217;t careful, you\u00a0<em>will<\/em>\u00a0break things. Specifically:<\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\">\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>The ESC (Electronic Speed Controller):<\/strong>\u00a0This is the weakest link. Most stock ESCs that come with a silver can motor are only rated for 7.2V (2S). If you plug a 3S into a basic $15 ESC, you will release the magic smoke instantly.\u00a0<strong>You must check the specs.<\/strong>\u00a0If your ESC is rated for at least 3S input, you are good to go.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Heat is the Enemy:<\/strong>\u00a0Speed equals friction. Friction equals heat. On 3S, that motor is working overtime. You can&#8217;t just run full throttle for 10 minutes straight and expect it to survive. You need to monitor temps. If the motor is too hot to touch (over 160\u00b0F\/70\u00b0C), you need to gear down.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Gearing Down is Mandatory:<\/strong>\u00a0Think of your spur and pinion gears as a transmission. To handle the extra power, you usually need a smaller pinion gear (or a larger spur gear). This reduces the strain on the motor, keeps it cooler, and lets you use that insane 3S torque to accelerate like crazy instead of just overheating.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h3>Why It&#8217;s &#8220;OK&#8221;<\/h3>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Running 3S on a stock motor is the ultimate &#8220;budget basher&#8221; move. It breathes new life into old cars. It allows you to use the same batteries across multiple vehicles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Is it as efficient or powerful as a sensored brushless system? No. But is it fun to watch your $20 Traxxas or Tamiya motor scream like a banshee on 11.1 volts? Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Just remember the golden rules:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Check your ESC rating first.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Monitor your temperatures.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\"><strong>Be ready to replace a $20 motor after a few months of hard use.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"ds-markdown-paragraph\">Because honestly, wearing out a cheap silver can because you had too much fun on 3S is a great problem to have.<\/p>\n<p>See below: Tamiya Dual Hunter 3S &#8211; the silver cans can withstand 3S as long as temperature is low. Winter time is fine.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"RCPRESS vid Tamiya dual hunter silver cans 3s\" width=\"563\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/G-vEE5pY6L8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"RCPRESS vid Tamiya Dual Hunter 3S\" width=\"680\" height=\"383\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/sd6z_n5DFVc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you hang around the RC hobby long enough, you\u2019ll eventually hear the old wives\u2019 tale:\u00a0\u201cIf you run 3S on a stock motor, you\u2019re going to let the magic smoke out.\u201d For years, we\u2019ve been told that 2S Lipos (7.4V) are the safe zone, and 3S (11.1V) is the wild west reserved for brushless systems. 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